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Wed, May. 30th, 2007 07:51 pm
grrr

For anybody on my f-list that has or is getting a Greatest Journal account (for reasons that are known), my username is the same over there, Witherwings7

I never actually thought I'd see the day where I would seriously contemplate leaving Livejournal :(

Hopefully this witch hunt will end so I won't have to. I love Livejournal and invested too much time and have too many friends on this journal to just erase it over some hypocritical zealots.


Oh, unrelated but I wanted to mention this and just remembered.

I have AIM now, it's witherwing7 (no 's')...my yahoo im is the same, but you have to add sbcglobal.net I think.

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I most likely will not delete my journal, like I said above I have too many friends and too much time invested in this journal. If the situation isn't resolved, I will get rid of my extra icons and paid account until this is all over.

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azi_69_daniela
azi_69_daniela
Azi
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 03:14 am (UTC)

This whole thing is so unfair! :/


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 05:38 am (UTC)

It is :(

At least all those OotP photos are making my day brighter :)


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cartoondoggy
cartoondoggy
Sara
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)

I dont understand. What's LJ doing that's so offensive?

I cant really imagine leaving LJ land.


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 05:38 am (UTC)

I won't get rid of my account but I might get rid of the paid account if this doesn't get resolved.
Basically LJ is deleting journals and communities of fiction that have underage sex, rape, incest, etc. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone that stuff at all but it's censorship is what they are doing. It isn't illegal to write about it and it's fiction. I know some people and that got their journals deleted and years of stories they only had archived on LJ are lost.
It isn't fair :(


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penguinsane
Mayhem
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 04:15 am (UTC)

It'll blow over if you just don't have things related to nonconsensual sex or pedophilia listed in your interests.


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 05:36 am (UTC)

I didn't but it's the idea that they are censoring when this stuff isn't illegal to write about.
I don't condone rape, pedophilia, etc at all but it's fiction you know? I've read stories with rape and the stories don't condone it.
Ah, I shouldn't preah, I edited my post anyway :)


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 05:38 am (UTC)

Shouldn't preach**


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weaz3l
weaz3l
Aleks
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 07:13 am (UTC)

I think it more of has to do with the idea that underage people are reading these things. I'm almost positive that to even read erotica most websites require you to say you are of age. I can see a problem arising when underage people are reading/writing these things (not that they couldn't lie about their age either).


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penguinsane
Mayhem
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 06:10 am (UTC)

Last time I checked, older men (Sirius, Lupin, Snape, Dumbledore, etc.) having sex with teenagers wasn't considered kosher, consensual or fiction or not.

Fuck the fiction argument. If I wrote some smut about raping newborn babies with shampoo bottles after cutting them from their dead mother's stomachs and taking a shit in her hacked-open abdomen, I don't think too many people would enjoy that very much.

I understand people are pissed, but everyone's going "wah wah, freedom of speech! I want to be able to list PEDOPHILIA as an interest and I can do that!"

They're not singling out any one fandom, there just happens to be a lot of shitty slash communities for Harry Potter because LJ is made up of mostly starry-eyed fangirls.


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 08:58 am (UTC)


I understand people are pissed, but everyone's going "wah wah, freedom of speech! I want to be able to list PEDOPHILIA as an interest and I can do that!"


I agree on that.


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witherwings7
witherwings7
Agent 27
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 08:58 am (UTC)

And I should probably be more specific, I agree on what you said, not how people think they should have pedophilia as an interest.


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box_of_sorrows
Box Of Sorrows
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 06:09 am (UTC)

Took me a while to realise what was going on, there was a few mentions of censorship etc on other peoples posts until I looked in at the replies here.
Seems an odd stance to me given the number of communities that are fully pornographic in nature..


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weaz3l
weaz3l
Aleks
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 07:15 am (UTC)

It's not just fanfiction or fiction communities. I have someone on my list who has had porno communities and other types deleted from her list.


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box_of_sorrows
Box Of Sorrows
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 07:19 am (UTC)

does seem like they've gone a little OTT without checking the content fully before hitting the zap button :-/

one thing I did notice looking at the WFI website is that they have a load of links to Barnes & Noble - who probably sell any number of fiction books that WFI would object to (they certainly have Lolita in stock!)...


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bellelvsbeast
bellelvsbeast
Officer Kelli
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 09:32 am (UTC)

Wait why are you leaving LJ? I have never even heard of Greatest Journal...
I think I am like not in the loop, I don't even know what's going on....
I'm paid until September so I can't just cancel mine...


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evilcresyluna
evilcresyluna
Miss Celie of the North
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
As best as I can tell

Some self-appointed "watch dog" group found that LiveJournal doesn't limit what people list as interests, and I believe did searches on words such as rape, incest, pedophilia, childrape, etc. etc. (basically words to imply sexual abuse) and submitted a lot of journals and communities to Six Apart saying they were promoting abuse of children. LiveJournal immediately deleted about 500. Some of them were fanfiction communities for adults that included, shall we say, slash fiction that offended delicate sensibilities. Others were character profiles such as "Lecherous Snape." Some more were even SURVIVORS of rape or incest that had support groups.
So, naturally, a lot of people that don't support abusing children were upset their journals/communities were deleted on those grounds.


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bellelvsbeast
bellelvsbeast
Officer Kelli
Fri, Jun. 1st, 2007 06:27 am (UTC)
Re: As best as I can tell

Oh, I see...right, I'm glad they are going back and actually fixing it, seeing as some people had them listed legitimately...


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evilcresyluna
evilcresyluna
Miss Celie of the North
Thu, May. 31st, 2007 07:40 pm (UTC)

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel on this one. I feel like there was definitely some journals and such that were deleted hastily and stupidly. On the other hand, I think a point may be made that POSSIBLY written porn involving underage participants isn't appropriate. Is it really healthy to give people who want to write out graphic, violent sex scenes between underage participants a place to gather and critique, and basically, encourage? It isn't an issue of legality, as basically this is a business that can make up whatever rules it wants - we can of course make our feelings on the subject known (though your's carries a tad more weight since I'm not a paying customer) but in the long run, it is their decision that WE can take or leave.


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axe_girl
axe_girl
Dana
Tue, Jun. 12th, 2007 07:05 am (UTC)

ZOMG the dramaz! It's all so exciting!


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